psychology in motion


socrates and hemingway

socrates has told me something
hemingway something else
and i must say i believe both to a certain point

socrates says, you must know yourself
not i must know myself, don't try to know
me and perhaps i don't do what i am telling you
he died of a violent death

but hemingway has made his motto his

I is the other, oneself is impossible to know
you will forget who you are as you do something
you cannot collect informations about yourself, what you think
being you can't help you in any mean or you are not in the
action anymore but in what socrates calls know you yourself






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Written on 2017-04-08 at 05:17

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Lawrence Beck The PoetBay support member heart!
It's a very complex situation, all right. In some fashion, you know yourself, yet the you that you know may not seem at all like the you others know. The solipsist would say that your knowledge of yourself must be true because the entire universe is a product of your mind. The empiricist would say that evidence suggests that you actually don't know yourself.

I have a lot of experience dealing with this question because my mother is a deeply neurotic woman who believes things about herself which are obviously untrue to everyone else.
2017-04-08


Ashe The PoetBay support member heart!
I would tend to agree with Mr. Hemingway that getting to know oneself is an impossible task since there is not one "you," but a whole crowd of personalities that live within you. They are the crowd made up of many facets of the self-image constantly creating conflict within yourself.

So, Socrates and Hemingway are both partially right--just as you said. :)
2017-04-08


Ashe The PoetBay support member heart!
Very deep thinking there.
Ashe
2017-04-08


one trick pony The PoetBay support member heart!
again, you distinguish two very subtle points.
2017-04-08